Forum:Tires
Topic:toyo proxes t1-s or pirelli p7000ss
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NPPjust curious which i should go for in a 205/45/16 size on a 98 integra ls soon to have 16x7 rims. i know the treadwear on the pirelli's is better (320 vs. a 280 i believe), so should i go with the pirelli's? or is tehre something good about the toyo's im missing (i.e. cheaper, quieter, smoother, better grip, better traction? ete...)? any accounts on either of these tires is appreciated. thanks.
TimMy neighbor works in a tire store and he tells me Toyo plain suck. One thing you should know is that a lot of dealers are pushing Toyo to their customers because Toyo pays the most commission among the tire brands. You can't go wrong with Michelin.

PercyWhy do they suck? Can you provide more detail?
TimSorry about that. I guess that was kind of a childish remark I made. Should have given more detail. Judging from the magazine tests I read, they are made of rather hard rubber and do not give the same level of dry and wet traction as say Michelin or Bridgestone ultra performance tires. Their price is quite high too. Mr sister's Mazda came with a set of Toyo FZ4. They do last very very long but as I said the tires don't stick as well. Checkout www.tyres-online.co.uk. The old Toyo T1 failed a high speed test too.

FrankFor the best performance, go with the Michelin Pilot SX MXX3. They may not last as long if you drive your Integra real hard, but you'll get the best grip - period.
FrankNPP,

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FairladyNPP,
# you must know
generally,Treadwear CANNOT be compared between each other brands.
# because UTQG is only usefull same brand tires.
ex)Pirelli P6000 Vs P7000.

# what kind of Pirelli?
# Toyo T1 is execellent,
but,Too noisy, Too harshy...
# If Ur concern is performa, go to P7000..

NPPok, well, i think out of those two id go for teh p7000, but how bout the p7000 compared to teh dunlop s8000? i understand taht the dunlop has the better dry grip but has a worse wet grip... and teh dunlop seems to be a little quieter and a little more comfortable (according to tirerack.com). both are like the exact same price wise, but the pirelli has a really nice and aggressive looking tread design which is an extra additive to support buying the pirelli's.. but which would u choose? the dunlop s8000 or hte pirelli p7000 (not teh supersports... just teh p7000)? thx

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