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nealI used this board to research my purchase of snow tires and I bought the Hakka Q's so I decided to post regular updates on my experience so others can benefit.
Tires bought first week of Jan 2000.Car is FWD.
Opinion so far:
1. Best snow tire I have ever driven on
2.Excellent braking capability, excellent grip
3. Will not let car slide, when I set it up to do so the tires will recover very quickly (it is actually hard work to try and slide the car!!)
4. Minimal noise from tire
5. No discernible poorer handling on dry surface

This is the best snow tire I have ever driven on (previously used Yokohama Guardex 600).
I recommend them to anyone wholeheartedly.
Note: we have only had 4 inches of snow so all my testing has been in light snow. Still waiting for heavy snow.
Tires are sold out across Ontario (had to get my set ordered from Nokian directly!!)
Will keep you all updated.
Cheers,
Neal
nealf@hotmail.com

nealHi Guys,
Well I have now test driven the tires through some prety heavy stuff - about 1-2 ft of snow!! These tires are the best - they just go and go!!
The handling is best on pure snow, followed by ice and slush.
In terms of total performance they cannot be beat - they did geta little squiggly on the dry stuff - but it is only noticeable if you are taking a turn at over 70km/h. In a straight line they are just fine.
It seems they will last for quite a while too as there seems to be no discernible tread wear at all.
jeff.aI too put some Hakka Qs on my 1999 Camry. We have had a lot of snow since Christmas here in Calgary and the tires have performed very well.

Deep dry snow - excellent, I felt unstoppable
Hard pack - excellent, very stable
Ice - pretty good, but I think only studs will really help on hard ice
Slush - pretty good but you need really chunky tires to do well in slush

I have never had snow tires before and I was blown away by how good they were. I don't think I will ever not have them in the winter again. I even felt I could beat 4x4s in the right conditions.

The only complaint I had with the tires was that they were a little squirrelley at fast speeds on dry pavement when it got warm out (>40°F). However, considering how good they are in winter conditions I think I can live with this.

I think these are ideal tires for maintained road driving in winter conditions, where you would mostly run into hardpack snow and ice.

JasonI have a 1998 Camry with 4 Nokian Hakka 1's and I did beat a Toyota 4runner!! It was the day after a snowstorm and the temperature was around -2 to 0 C. The roads were covered by about 3 inches of snow and some slush. I spotted a 4runner going pretty fast (compared to other cars on the road) around a wide bend. The guy probably thought he was invincible. Anyway I caught up to him and passed (!!) him around the curve. He seemed pretty stunned. After that I slowed down and let the guy pass. I don't usually do this but I think with a fwd car with a set of decent snow tire can beat any SUV in the winter. SUVs are have a much higher center of gravity and most of their owners don't bother to put on snow tires. (most of SUV driver think with their crotch and not their brains which is their biggest problem)
mike
quote:
Originally posted by neal:
I used this board to research my purchase of snow tires and I bought the Hakka Q's so I decided to post regular updates on my experience so others can benefit.
Tires bought first week of Jan 2000.Car is FWD.
Opinion so far:
1. Best snow tire I have ever driven on
2.Excellent braking capability, excellent grip
3. Will not let car slide, when I set it up to do so the tires will recover very quickly (it is actually hard work to try and slide the car!!)
4. Minimal noise from tire
5. No discernible poorer handling on dry surface

This is the best snow tire I have ever driven on (previously used Yokohama Guardex 600).
I recommend them to anyone wholeheartedly.
Note: we have only had 4 inches of snow so all my testing has been in light snow. Still waiting for heavy snow.
Tires are sold out across Ontario (had to get my set ordered from Nokian directly!!)
Will keep you all updated.
Cheers,
Neal
nealf@hotmail.com


I've run Nokians on all my vehicle, live in Valdez, Alaska where we average 300 inches of snow a year. They have been by far the best performing tires I have had, both on ice and deep snow. As an aside, got a chance to try them in mud this summer and they did not let me down!
makfran@alaska.net

JamesWhat is the difference between Hakka1 and HakkaQ? Which is better? Someone told me Hakka1 is a studded tire.
JeffThe Hakka 1 is a studable snow tire. I have a set w/o studs and they are superb in snow and slush. The Q is more of a friction tire like the Blizzak and cannot be studded. Both of these tires offer excellent winter driving capability and long treadlife, however the Q will have a slightly shorter life, but still substantially longer than that of the Blizzak. From my experience, and those of others who have posted here, either one of these tires are THE choice when it comes to winter driving.
nealHi Guys,
Well its the end of March and I took my Hakka Q's off, the past 4 weeks I have run them on dry pavement and they have performed fine - though they are a bit "soft" on the dry - I felt the difference when I changed to my all-seasons.
The tread is excellent I will get at least 4-5 years out of them.
One thing I noticed at one point that the car was sliding a bit more than usual and found that the tires were slightly over-inflated ...once I got them to the acceptable psi then they were as good as usual.
Again my wholehearted recommendation to any one who will be buying winter tires for the upcoming season.
For an indepth report on HakkaQ go to the Nokian website (www.nokiantyres.com/indexen.html)
I chose HakkaQ over hakka 1 because in Ontario studs are illegal - has studs ben allowed I would have got 1's. The Q has been designed to perform without studs therefore I got them as I would be operating without studs. With studs the European tests (and my personal friend in Finland) say go with hakka 1.
I will not be posting any further updates - I think you all know I am very pleased with my tires. If you have to then you can contact me at my hotmail address.
Neal
nealf@hotmail.com
scottg
Last fall, I happen to put my new Nokian Q's on my Protege the day before it snowed. It was a really nice day. People were wearing shorts and I even saw a convertible or two. I felt silly getting snow tires on such a nice day.

The next day we got the first snow of the year. Sort of a mini blizzard. I had been hoping to put some wear on the tires before the first snow, but didn't get the chance. The tires didn't seem that great, but then I realized how easy I pulled away from intersections in comparison to everyone else.

But the real difference came once I had worn the tires in a bit. During hard stops, the car remained straight and in control. Which was a big difference between my previous front-drive car with all-seasons. And this was after driving an all-wheel drive, ABS equipped vehicle for the two previous winters.

We don't get a lot of snow at one time, but we did experience a large snow dump last December. When meeting another vehicle coming down a narrow residential street, I was usually the one who had to pull out of the well worn tracks in the middle, to allow the other car to pass.

Sometimes I didn't even realize how much difference the winter tires made. Everday I would pull up to my garage door and stop to open it. It's a slight incline, but I never had any trouble getting the car to enter the garage once I opened the door. I tried doing the same thing with a Windstar with traction control, and I kept getting stuck.

One other note. I took the Nokian's off the car a little too early. I had too experience winter two more times with my all-seasons. Not until I drove my car with all-seasons, could I appreciate the performance of my winter tires. It was like night and day.

So no matter the brand, I would recommend winter tires in the winter. I realize it's costly, but I think it's worth it. I don't even miss my all-wheel drive vehicle. I'm quite happy with the front-drive car(well, more ground clearance would be nice).

RogerI purchased a set of Hakka Q's for my Saab 9-5 last fall. I installed them on the car in mid November, and just removed them March 30th. With these tires on the car I could not make the ABS engage when stopping on glare ice. Believe me I tried hard! Snow traction was excellenent too. I drive 2500 miles per week on e-ways mostly and put around 10,000 miles on the set this winter. I expect to get one more winter out of the tires. They will still have ample tread block remaining for snow traction, but it appears the special siping which gives the tire it's great ice traction will only last 20,000 miles. Still great for a winter tire.
parmm@localnet.comJust to let you guys know, I'm on my second winter with a set of Hakka Q's. Live just south of Buffalo, NY in the ski country. We get hit harder than Buffalo. I have tried all the others and found these Hakka Q's to be the best going on snow and ice. I drive about 30,000 miles a year and the Q's are on 4 to 5 months. Plan on running at least another season, if not two. Running them on a Focus ZX3 and can run circles around the 4 wheel drives. In fact I've been on the road when lots of the 4 wheel drives dared not drive.
Pat
parmmReference my Apr 2002 post. The above mentioned tires were on winter of 03 and are going back on for the winter of 2004 very soon. Think this will be the last winter for them.

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