Re: Re: David and Dunlops

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Posted by Chris Boylan on September 23, 1997 at 11:30:18:

In Reply to: Re: David and Dunlops posted by Matt Johnson on September 22, 1997 at 22:41:53:

In case you didn't get the private e-mail I sent, I have included an extract
below (yes, it's about tires, not arguments). As for finding out the benefits
of plus-sizing, post a message with that as the subject here. But also try
usenet groups like,,, etc.
plus try the turbo! and TSN mailing lists. Also try searching in Dejanews for
'+plus +tires +sizing' - try both the current and 'old' databases. There's a
wealth of information out there if you know where to look.

As for your specific question, The only Michelins I have used are
the Energy MXV4s that were on my car when I bought it. The ride was
a bit stiff and the back slipped out from under me a little at
a less-than-high-speed maneuver. However, the rear tires were a bit
worn. And you are considering a different model (we all know you can't
generalize about tires based on other models - most manufacturers make good
and less-than-good tires).

I do like the Pirelli P6000 Sport Veloce I had mounted on Friday.
Nice smooth ride without losing touch of the road, and plenty of
grip in wet and dry. Very nice match for the Saab 900 - would imagine
that they would work well on the 9000 - you have a fairly stiff
suspension, right? These tires are firm without being stiff - a nice
compliment for the 900's less than forgiving suspension.

OK, just peeked at the tire rack site - those Michelin MXX3s look
like something special!! You should check out the tire rack site -
they have a head-to-head(to head) three way test with the Pilot
MXX3, and two Dunlop tires, the SP8000 and SP9000. The SP9000
did well on the 'real world road ride' test, but it didn't do as
well on the track. Then again, how often are you going to be
racing your Saab on the track?? The Dunlops do have a higher
wear rating, however, which means they should last longer than the
MXX3. That may be an issue if you want these puppies to last more
than 15-20K miles.

If you haven't already, you might want to do a dejanews search
(both in current and in the old database) for MXX3. This way
you can see if anyone else has been talking about these guys in
the usenet groups. Also, the tire rack site is at and, of course, dunlop is at (-:

Good luck on your tire hunt!!



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