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Author Topic:   318is: Yokohama Avids vs Michelins vs Pirellis?
posted January 12, 2001 04:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

Looking to get a new set of tires for my 1995 318is 185/65R15 and wondering between the Yokohama Avid T4, Aivd H4/V4, Micehlin MXV4, MXV4 Plus or the Pirelli.

Any suggestions or comments woudl be greatly appreciated

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posted January 12, 2001 05:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
depends on where you drive and how you drive. if you have a change of seasons and get some snow every year then you need a good all season tire not a high traction performance tire which will slide in the snow. if you have little snow and drive aggressively, then get at least an H rated tire like the Nitto NT-460(from tires.com), Bridgestone Eager or Firestone SH30. If you just want an affordable long lasting tire that will be nice and quiet on the highway, then I like the Pirelli P400 Touring, Michelin X-One and Dunlop D65 T Touring(all can be seen at tirerack.com). Out of the ones listed(you did not specify which Pirelli) I like the Michelin the best but it isn't cheap.

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posted January 12, 2001 05:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

Thanks for your quick reply. I didin't list the Pirelli models because I don't acutally know which ones are "supposed" to be good for my car. I am driving in Vancouver, Canada, so basicallly we get snow only like 3-4 days a year but we do get lots of rain, so wet traction is a high priority for me. I don't drive too aggressively also. You mention the X-One, I have used the XGT-H4 and MXV4 before, how does it compare in terms of all season use and traction in rain?

Thanks again.

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posted January 13, 2001 08:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

I noticed you had experience with the XGT's. Are these on your car now?
Donfromnaples mentioned the Dunlops D65's. I have a Tiburon SE and just switched the XGT V4's (factory on this car) to a set of Dunlop D60A2,
a more of an entry level to the D65's.

It's like driving a new car!

I'm in Toronto CA, and we get our share of rain, but obiously the snow. Since the day I drove my car off the lot, I was never satisfied with the XGT's! In the wet they hydroplaned easily, and they were worse in the snow!
This is the first set of Dunlop's for me, (have experience with the XGT V4, Bridgestone Radial TA, The Eagles: GT+4, GTII's, and RSA's and 1 set of older Potenza, but all on other cars)

I've had these Dunlops for over a month. (and you probably know the kind of weather we've had down here in that time!)
I've very happy (and confident!)
But I must add --> it has only been a month, so they are still breaking in!

My only experience with Yokohama's and Pirelli's were on motorcycles (no complaints). But I would not recommend the Michelin's, in my experiences and with family member (girlfriends father just replaced his set of MXV4's, he didn't like them!) They woredown fast, and he didn't like the handling in the weather!

Of course all of this is just my opinion!!!
The only thing I recommend to you is: Definately shop around!! It seems that tires are truly what people prefer, even looking through this bulletin board, the same people may recommend different tires than on previous postings.
I took about a month to choose these, and talked to about 12 different dealers (all of them suggesting different tires!! --> they must have some incentives for certain brands!)

Didn't intend on writing a book, but buying tires can be a frustrating task. (Hope this helps)

Drive Safe!

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posted January 13, 2001 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The Michelin XGT-H4 is a more aggressive tire. I has superior handling capabilities over the X-One but will not be as smooth, quiet or last nearly as long as the X-One. There is a wet traction rating in the customer survey results that have been tallied at tirerack.com. These charts can help you determine best overall tire for your needs. I hope this helps.

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posted January 13, 2001 10:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

Thanks for your detail post, especially about the Dunlop tires. For some reason I have never used Dunlop tires but as I talk to a couple of friends, it seem like they also had very good experiences with Dunlop tires. I think I am definitely going to research some more into getting a set of Dunlops now.

As for my experience with Michelin and Yokohama, on my Honda Accord I did have a set of XGT-H4, which has now been replace by Yokohama Avid T4, which I really like more so than the Michelins.

I have heard the Pirelli's, no matter which model you choose, tend to have less wet traction overall so I am tending to stay away from them, but then I am only hearing this from friends who has had them

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posted February 01, 2001 02:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I have Yokohama Avid V4s on my car and have a little over 10,000 miles on them. So far I have driven them in rain, snow, and on ice and I think they are great. I have had no problems with them at all in any of the conditions I've drive in.

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