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Bob P.
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posted December 19, 1999 05:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Going to buy a set of Hakka 1 for the front of my Toyota Celica ( 185 70 r13 )....should I get them studded....or will be satisfied with out the studs ???? Thank all for the info...Bob

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Bikor
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posted December 19, 1999 05:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I strongly advise against using snow tires on just the front of your car. It negates the handling of the car in dry and in snow. (See the comparison of 4 snow tires vs. 2 at www.tirerack.com.)

I used to do front tires only, on two cars. It is okay for around-town low speeds, but can be very dangerous if taking a corner fast, and has created some uncontrollable skids on slick highways with very little cause.

Additionally, if you are using a high-tech aggressive tire like a Nokia snow, the change to have a dangerously wagging tail increases. To stud those tires and run all-seasons in the back is a bad, bad thing.

Also, I found the ride and noise from 4 of the same snow tires was better than just two snows in the back.

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ben
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posted December 19, 1999 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ben   Click Here to Email ben     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Where is your location? I know in Canada you can not use studded tires on street. I'm in Toronto & using HAKKA 1 without studded. You should be fine with out the studs.

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JEFF
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posted December 20, 1999 10:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I would definately agree with Bikor, go with the winter tires on all 4 wheels. I have Hakka 1's without studs (they're illegal here) but to be honest, I doubt I would ever really need them. Unless pure ice is a major concern, the Hakkas without studs will do the job. In snow, and slippery slush the grip is amazing, on ice they hold well, but perhaps not as good as some of the "ice" tires.

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neal
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posted December 20, 1999 07:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I am in the market for snow tires and have decided that it will be either the Hakka 1's or the Hakka Q's.
Has anyone used the Q's? Do they last as long as Hakka 1's? Also are they good on snow?
I was leaning towards Hakka 1's but was told that they are pure snow tires and are no good on ice.
I live in Toronto, Canada so we are not allowed to use studs. I think that may reduce the benefits of the 1's.
Any replies appreciated.
neal
nealf@hotmail.com

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Marc
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posted December 21, 1999 05:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi Neal, if you really elected to buy Nokian winter tire, your are going to select the best in the world. To answer your questions on the Hakka Q, the millage you gonna get compare to Hakka 1 is about 90%, but any way it is about twicw the one of other studless winter tire such as Bridgestone, Michelin, ect.. As far as snow and slush traction is concern, Hakka Q is better than Hakka 1! I am using Hakka Q right now, let me tell you that if you can't use studded tires in your area (wich is a big joke Ontario law, nothing safer than studded tires) it is the best tire to use.

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Bob P.
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posted December 21, 1999 07:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
THANKS to all for the info...Yeppp...these tires look like the answer for me getting out of my drive way!! I am NOT going to get the HAKKA 1's studded . I would like to get the HAKKA Q's.....but they do not come in my size of 185 70 13....but the 1's do. So for this winter , I'm just gonna get two for the front of my Celica...and get the other two next year because of the cost of $ 177.00 for the two HAKKA 1's...plus the price of extra wheels.I live in the northern mountains of PA in the Alleghany National Forest and travel over 100 miles a day on very bad roads ( the roads are bad in summer too !! )........I'll be getting these tires next Monday in ERIE , PA.if it doesn't snow too bad so I can get there!!!! Again thanks my friends....and happy motoring ..Bob P.

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JEFF
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posted December 21, 1999 08:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
A good choice with the tires Bob. Just be REALLY careful out there this winter, with only the two snows, the first time you brake in a hurry, you may wind up suddenly looking at the traffic that was following you!

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AJ
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posted December 21, 1999 12:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Question: Would you drive a car with only the front set or rear set of brakes working? Nope. Putting snows on the front or rear (Depending on which wheels have power going to them) offsets the balance and will make it dangerously unstable, especially on the roads that you described. I'd think about the added cost of two tires more tires against accident damage.

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Vin
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posted December 23, 1999 11:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Just had to post . . . I live in Erie PA and am going to Allegheny next Monday. (Bob lives in Allegheny and is coming to Erie for his tires) I've used the same local dealer (J&F) for years. They're great. Almost as good as the Hakka's ;-) You might want to seriously reconsider running only 2 snows. The rear tires play a more important role in winter driving than many people realize. I run 4 Hakka 1s. We just had 2 feet of good 'ol lake effect snow today here in Erie. Going around corners - you can feel the rear biting in and obediently following the front. It gives you the extra edge in winter driving. You concentrate on pointing your car in the right direction and the tires help the car do it. If you are going to J&F - must be, they're the only Nokia dealer for miles - ask them about paying on time. It will be worth it. As for finding rims - check out Tire Rack. Whether for my Hondas or my Audi, they always come through with steel rims for only $25 a piece. Can't beat it. Good luck.

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